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WANLOV
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Sat Jun 07, 2003 10:53 am

FORCE DEN GIV WE SOM IDEA OF WEN DA OFFICIAL STUFF GO DROP OR WHETHER E STILL DEY ON OR WOT.

EIYO HORSE MAN DEM. DA MIX I DROPPED WAS MAD BIASED CUZ I DROP 2 VERSES ON IT. I START B4 DA BEAT(african hiphop.com iz da bomb...) AND FINISH AS DA BEAT CUTZ OFF ON ME(1 more thing i seriusly need to address is war...). U SHOULD B ABLE TO TELL FROM DA VOICE OR SOMTIN.

CHALE RICHMAN WO BA KPE YE D.C PICNIC SHISHI. ALOO?

7X INGBE O TAY?

ALL LYONZ GOTTA HEAR SOM ISH I PLAYED WITH. SPAT SOM ISH ON SOM COMMERCIAL BEATZ...

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Sat Jun 07, 2003 10:34 pm

now who did that mix? I hear my own verse was placed totally off beat, which is odd cause it wasn't before. Maybe you should listen a little better instead of just placing the beginning of the vocal right on the first beat, i start just before that so this way it sounds fucking wack...
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Sun Jun 08, 2003 12:19 pm

yeah--when is it gon drop----I'm hungry to hear the version with XAVIER's scratching added--holla back
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Sun Jun 08, 2003 3:42 pm

Well I wanted to find out about the Timberland link...

so I looked up these keywords in google: swartz timberland kkk

(swartz is the president of timberland).

that led to this page:

http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/timberland.asp

which has a few interesting words about the poem above which apparently isnt really by maya angelou, instead it is some kind of 'urban legend' as they call it:
Origins: This piece, variously titled "Clothes" or "FUBU," began circulating in March 1999. It has come to be attributed to Maya Angelou, the celebrated African-American poet, but it is not hers. According to a spokesperson at Dr. Angelou's speakers' agency, "It is not her work. She is aware of it and is very disappointed." (As well she should be -- what's circulating on the Internet is dreadfully executed and lumpen, and it must be galling to have so many think she was capable of writing that far beneath her abilities.)

That the poem is ascribed to her shouldn't surprise anyone; it's written from the stance of an African-American's pointing out to others of that community the errors of their consumeristic ways. For many, African-American + poem = Maya Angelou, in the same way that any rumor about hamburgers is transmuted by those who hear it into something associated with McDonalds, or anything to do with fried chicken devolves onto KFC.

Timberland isn't owned by the Ku Klux Klan, nor does it have any such connections. This very successful outfitter was founded in 1952 by Nathan Swartz. It remained a family-owned business until 1987, when Sidney Swartz (Nathan's son) took the company public. Timberland now trades on the New York Stock Exchange under the ticker symbol TBL, and in 2000 its consolidated revenue totaled $1.1 billion.

As for who runs the company, according to the corporate profile on Timberland's site:

Sidney and his son, Jeffrey, are actively involved in the management of the Company. Sidney is Chairman and Jeffrey is President and Chief Executive Officer. As of March 30, 2001, the Swartz family, together with trusts and a charitable foundation established by the family, held approximately 47% of Timberland stock and approximately 81% of voting power.

Jeffrey Swartz (the grandson of the founder and Timberland's President and CEO) has been a member of the board of City Year, the national youth organization that provides community service in 13 U.S. cities, since 1991 and its chair since 1994. He is also a director of several social justice organizations, including Business for Social Responsibility and Combined Jewish Philanthropies of Greater Boston. He's hardly recruitment material for the KKK, even if he weren't Jewish. (The KKK regards Jews with about as much affection as it does African-Americans.)

This rumor persists in part due to claims about the tree on Timberland's logo representing a tree on which blacks were lynched. (Apparently a tree can't just be a tree any more.) Snapple was subjected to a similar rumor having to do with the sailing ship then on its label: common knowledge had it the ship was a blackbirder, a vessel that brought slaves in chains to America. It wasn't -- the image came from a drawing of the Boston Tea Party, but facts didn't long stand in the way of rumor, and the label was changed.

Slanders about this or that company's being owned by the KKK are a dime a dozen, ranking right up there with equally fallacious claims about the CEOs' of such companies appearing on The Oprah Winfrey Show to utter appallingly disparaging comments about blacks. (Sometimes these mythical CEOs announce that their companies tithe to the Church of Satan, which vilifies them to an even wider audience.) These are common rumor types, and such tales should be dismissed as gossip not even worth the effort of repeating.

One statement from the poem does hold true, though: Fubu did take its appellation from "For Us By Us."

Barbara "some suggest that 'by' is missing a 'u'" Mikkelson
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Sun Jun 08, 2003 5:06 pm

[quote name="illa"]yo prozak if ur vocals didn`t go wit the beat probably u aint rappin right nigga...didn`t u get to rap on the beat before doing this shit here...[/quote]

that's what I meant this way you get stupid ass comments like this one......anyway I just heard this is not sevenxavier's own mix, so never mind about that. But you might consider removing the link because it sounds like shit, and I'm not just speaking on my verse....
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