Learn&share how to survive doing what you love, hip hop

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blacknoise
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In 1982 I fell in love with Hip Hop through b-boying/breakdancing and writing/ graffiti. My crew back then was Pop Glide crew. Like most kids who fall in love with Afro-American music and culture, we also fell in-love with how cool hip hop was and how it spoke to us. Later, when many people stop b-boying we combine MCing with a b-boy show and Black Noise is born. So like many people from back then we all spoke with that slang and accent, no matter how hard they sound now. But we learnt to love how we sound and started rhyme about what we go through. We do a gang of shows for free to get a track record and just build a portfolio. The shows become our calling card and people start calling around for us to book us for school carnivals and other community based events. In 1993, I left my job as a teacher to do what is my first love - Hip Hop Culture.

Step one ... How the hell do I pay the rent. OK. I sell newspapers and recycle stuff for extra cash. At the same time I use part of the cash to call for gigs at clubs around town. Most want to know where else we performed, so we need to show our track record right... they are impressed. As we improve the show and earn more money we start to invest in ourselves. We buy a 808 and 909 drum machine and one of the crew members learn to make beats.

Step two ... We continue to do gigs for free at schools and other community based organizations. We rehearse constantly to create the best show. We ask people who have nothing to do with the group what they thought and what they liked about the show. We ask people that we meet about the process of managing a group. We start to record demos and video footage of the show, so that we can send it off to promoters and they are impressed and often bring us the JHB and P.E. clubs. We realise that their is a shortage of gigs in the townships, so we greate our own shows. Hire the venue, the sound, the make the poweters, DJs, etc and make extra cash from shows in places where people cant afford to go to clubs etc ... mostly younger kids.

Step three ... We read about getting deals as that is what everyone suggest is the way to success.. I speak to Steve Gordan of Making Music productions and Shaheen of POC to hear exactly what it is like to be signed and what it amounts to as a performer. You see you must learn from those who have gone before. The rest of the group thinks that we will be different in the recording industry, but you know how that is ... we all think that we will make the difference and that it wont happen to us ... So we sign the deal and that is the biggest lot of bullsh*t that you can go through, but you have to go through it to really know its crap here in South Africa ... everyone thinks they will have an easier route ??? .We have national tours, our videos are on TV and people know the group and the songs BUT, we starving in Durban while the show organiser is nowhere to be found. People all think you are living the life and most artists live the lie for the record labels and even keep the masses believing that its good being a signed artist ... mmmm maintaining that lie as a hip hop artists today becomes evident when they do solo albums to get some more of that cash than to divide it with the other 7 members of your crew and producers and record label ...

End of part one ... In the next part I will explain how to manage yourself and release your own album as a hip hop group or just an MC or b-boy crew or graf artist. If you have any questions or contributions for others wanting to make a living from this GOD GIVEN CULTURE , let me know and I will try to answer it when I have time or others who have the solution can assist with information. You never to old to learn and I do not have all the answers, but someone out their does.

LEARN TO SURVIVE IN HIP HOP / LIFE !!!!!

Emile YX?
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Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:18 am

yo Emile!!

this is some truely elevating stuff!!!!!! its an honour 4 AHH 2 hav u on this site!!! keep blessin us with ur knowledge!!!!

!P!E!A!C!E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:10 pm

WTF ppl??? seemz as if u dont respect this knowledge!!!

get in here and learn!!!!!!!

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Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:36 am

Intro

I put this up as a test to see if hip hoppers were actually serious about their craft, skill or love for hip hop culture ... and my assumption seemed to be right. We talk all that hard lies, but are uninterested in really making a living from what we love. You see , truth be told, we love working for the man and on weekends, hip hop is that escape from the truth, when we act all hard and lie about how we're gonna blow up ... Yeah! Right really. You watched 8 mile and now you know how to make it big ... You see it is one thing to front that you love hip hop, BUT will you take that step that puts you in its hands to make a living for you and your family like you lie to your buddies, who dont believe you anyway, because you will never sacrifice that extra beers for rent money or studio time. You live too well to challenge the man ... So I hope that The African Hip Hop Community will be real about what they really feel for hip hop. Its seems that to most people Hip Hop is like the lotto, they HOPE they are gonna win. They dont want to SACRIFICE to get what they claim they want ... Stop fronting, sacrifice your security

Self management:-

Step One:- YOU MUST LEARN ... Do all you can to find out about the managing yourself from others that have done it before you. Tell them you would like to learn from them and you will find that many of them are eager to help the next generation. Call local arts and culture for places where you can get information as well as access funds for ideas you had for creating platforms for you and other MCs. Go to the meetings. YES, its boring, but if you never go, they will give the money to Ballet and Modern Jazz and Drama that never come to your community. I have been many of the meetings and hip hoppers are never at these meetings. And if they are, they never say anything to show that hip hop is more than what the mases think it is

Step Two:- Read the information and develop and plan for getting your skills seen and heard by others. As an MC this will mean writing a profile or a list of shows and references of gigs that you have done as proof that you are serious about this as your career. These people you are approaching already have a bad idea of hip hop, so dont be late or try to act like the stereotypical hip hopper with accent and unrealistic expectations. YOU BIOG and PICT needs to be direct and to the point. You need to choose what you direction as an artist or album will be so that people will know what to expect from that calling card you are leaving with them. This could later develop into a video presentation when you have the money and your history and details as an artist can then be on a website. Do not promise to do what you cant.

Step Three:- Once you are doing gigsat schools and community centres, try to get letters from them that can be used to approach sponsors to assist with a large variety of things. Your main concern should be how sponsors can enhance your performance and presentation like website, CD, DVD, tour, etc. All this is only possible with regular shows that many times should be organised by you to survive. You can also drop your CV or BIOG with advertising agents for those times when their are no shows and you need to pay the rent.

Step Four:- Managing yourself is about being honest with yourself. If you are not business minded then maybe someone else should handle that for you and you should be incharge of your show or performance. Dont lie to yourself that you can be everything, when you know you weekness.

Step Five:- When you eventually get paid gigs. Research what the crowd liked about your show and what needs to change. This will cause the show to become better and the interest in the crowd will ensure that you will hired again and again. PErFORMANCE is about paying crowd satisfaction. How do you survive if they dont wat to pay to come and see you. You being angry at them wont make them pay the next time. They pay your rent, so consider that. Yes, you want to satisfy yourself,but you need to find exciting way to do that ....

Gotta run, I have the African Hip Hop Indaba this weekend, so we will talk later OK ...

LEARN and SHARE

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Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:17 am

Step One:- YOU MUST LEARN ... Do all you can to find out about the managing yourself from others that have done it before you. Tell them you would like to learn from them and you will find that many of them are eager to help the next generation. Call local arts and culture for places where you can get information as well as access funds for ideas you had for creating platforms for you and other MCs. Go to the meetings. YES, its boring, but if you never go, they will give the money to Ballet and Modern Jazz and Drama that never come to your community. I have been many of the meetings and hip hoppers are never at these meetings. And if they are, they never say anything to show that hip hop is more than what the mases think it is
first of all i gotta echo Kast! it is a true blessing to have u on this site! u ooze knowledge and thank God

u are not selfish with da info u have! lotsa UNCAGED RESPECT 2 U


so how does one go about managing oneself?

poetry is an element of HipHop and that's what i do.

i have a very honest and hard working manager. i am content, im merely asking for those who would

wanna manage themselves! managing an artist of any sort is hard work that's why i'd rather have a manager to do all

the running around while i concerntrate on my art!

i'm not saying managing oneself is crap but i'm cool with how ma thing are @ d moment.

i dnt think i have enuf tym to do everything! school, work, motherhood, guitar practises, tai-chi and trust me

da list goes on!
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Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:06 pm

i dnt think i have enuf tym to do everything! school, work, motherhood, guitar practises, tai-chi and trust me

da list goes on!
Ya my sister u got a point. That’s why I think It might just be that much easier breaking into the industry as a group rather than a solo act. Then the pressure does not fall on one individual.

I know this is a hip-hop site but take Tkzee for example. At their prime Tokollo was the man with all the right vocals but as solo he is no where near Kabelo, he has even stated his own label and bringing new acts into the industry.

My take. Hook up with other people who are just as passionate as U are get know AND KNOW, then take on the world by yoself
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Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:42 pm

[size=24]I couldnt help noticing the lethargy of peops to responding to what should be HipHop101 for would be rappers who wish to take their art to the next level and it does seem as if from West to South Africa its the same,everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die,posted below are my thoughts on the subject which I posted on the forum a while back,I believe it has some relevancy,good lW/African HipHop Politics/Economics,Can I get a witness?



Lets start with the obvious we have got rappers in Africa that can spit more verbals than Mobb Deep,Nas,Eminem(...um okay maybe thats pushing it),mad talented MC's(I call them bedroom rhymers) cos only their bedrooms ever get to witness the exposition of pure genius they spit to no one cept themselves they have got nothing to prove,no vain ego trips,no need to battle rhyme to prove some antiquated outmoded versions of male virility...and the world loses out,the industry loses out,we ALL lose out because the systems as we have them right now hide our shining stars,I was stunned to see my old freind Jaffaar on this website,questions we have to ask East to West North to South Africa is: why are we so weak as a power bloc in the global Hip Hop industry- 14 BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY that is as one rap afficionado said "the only industry we control and still dominate"by virtue of skin color.Answer is simple for every 1000 Ice Cubes there can only be one Eric Wright(Eazy-E)Only One Russel Simmons,Only One Damian Dash or Puff Daddy who can marry the talent to the cash register,I love my brothers in arms but I would love it more if our respective individual and subregional skills/peculiarities can translate cos it should translate,lets appreciate the skills but today to say can Africans rap is like asking can Micheal Jordan jump?Can we move units?...................helloooooooo?



So lets look at the politics of it,market,demand and supply,the Sean Combs poser:What you need to do is check your distribution"Biggest Market?Obviously Nigeria,Most organized?Obviously South Africa,Most Cohesive?Obviously the Francophone Blocs,now if all this regions have a historical record of cooperation and trade,caravans crossing the Libyan desert,Berbers chitchatting at the Pyramids,etc and our problems only began when some flaxen haired pointy nosed peops introduced articial barriers,lil thing called taxation,export duties and all,shouldnt we collapse the barries create a HipHop free trade zone,collapse the internal borders Schengen EU style and place a stranglehold on OUR intellectual property viz a viz the airwaves,the British Media hype Beckham as the best thing since sliced bread?,Brits buy that,ASIA buys that,Okey Dokey,lets replicate: We have a million TEN,TWENTY Million people across Africa that swear MC XYZ of the Kickass Crew is 3 much.Respect Eminem but BUY that bloke from Senegal with that kickass beat,that posse in Tanzania that did the collabo with Jigga cos Jigga couldnt AFFORD to ignore them.So the deal,Hip Hop has at its roots a sub versive nature,it gives its users an avenue to break out, break free,to escape from slavery,mental,physical societal or otherwise, therein is its political connontations which we HAVENT used YET,we'v turned Nigga into a title of honor,we'v forced recognition of ourselves on the world consciousness,long jump from Muhammed Ali spitting rhymes about being a "beautifuly black man"to Kanes"I'm black and Im proud"to all this white folks who wanna be us and have our babies,that my freinds is POWER.



Black people are our own worst enemies,yo let the policticians @#$! us over but pleeeease lets get it straight,business is business,there is no white or black,American or Zulu,there is rich and poor and one cant understand the language of the other,HipHop ANY HIPHOP is pure business,certain dictates hold true and will hold true for a thousand millenia,whoever produces a superior product and can make it faster cheaper distribute it faster cheaper,save the most money on overheads,WILL make it a thousand times again and again whether he be a Swahili goat herder or a redneck from Talhahasee,atheist or bigot,money respects adherence to its principles,NOT race!My fellow MC's, props you will get ad infinitum,legions of people will bob their heads and scream you are too much!,the bomb!,better than Dre!but they WONT give you a pension plan,learn how to read a balance sheet or get someone who CAN,go where the money is,after the after party,go to the BANK,talk MONEY,Understand economies of scale,Gangstarr refined the art with KRS One,Run DMC took it world wide with Mick Jagger,In Nigeria Distribution(bootleg) is controlled by cartels(an ethnicgroup that will remain nameless and blamess but which those in the know.ahem know!),together they can(and do) pool 200million dollars in 48 hoursif and when they have to ,they got money allright but no finesse,W/Africanrapper named 2 shots was a visionary how he parlayed them but the coup de grace is yet to be applied,the finishing move to take this thing into the next stratosphere is dangling right before your eyes,that globalization thing the whole corporate merger business is NOT a Western scenario its GLOBAL,my peops you gotta think GLOBALLY,act LOCALLY,in America Hip Hop is popularised by innercity disadvantaged youth,in Africa the best at it willynilly have a college degree tucked away somewhere,DONT let us wait for an N.G.O from Europe or somewhere to come be like HEY why dont you fellas do it like this and like that and work that like its astrophysics when actually we were too chickenshit to take the challenge.The Challenge is this:The talent is unquestioned,the money is there,in Africa and Diaspora,we have got voices people can listen to,THINK as a power bloc,put your people on the MAP via hiphop.Stop the hate,we playaahate toooooooooo much,took 12 men to jumpstart a whole new religion,Mohammed was just one man(SWH), COLLAPSE,marry the talent to the cash register,y'all are rappers,poets,not economists,work with the economists the finincial specialists,pool everything as in everything SKILL,KNOWLEDGE,CONTACTS,and most definitely MONEY.And you know my favourite story of all time,its about the Tower of Babel when God said "if this people speaking ONE LANGUAGE could do this then NOTHING(emphasis a million times:NOTHING!!)they put their minds to will be beyond them."Thats the Big Alpha talking y'all,Lord God Almighty agreeing that nothing a people united in purpose put their minds to is impossible,and think what happened when the first portuguese,dutch,French or British ship hit our shores:they made SURE we stopped talking,Anglophone!Francophone!Y'all know Oakes is the truth!Dont censor me,right here right now reach out,connect the dots,you KNOW I'M RIGHT!LETS TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALK![/size][/size]
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Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:46 pm

yo Black noise plz bold and space your posts!

we cannot read them. they hurt the eyes. someONE,ANYONE please CO-SIGN
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U HAVE VALUABLE INFO BUT IT GETS LOST IN DA UNBEARABLE TEXT!!!

YOUR TEXT BECUMS SORTA A BARRIER.....WE WANNA READ BUT IT IS TOO SMALL AND TOO

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Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:20 pm

[quote name="Uncaged Thot"]yo Black noise plz bold and space your posts!

we cannot read them. they hurt the eyes. someONE,ANYONE please CO-SIGN
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U HAVE VALUABLE INFO BUT IT GETS LOST IN DA UNBEARABLE TEXT!!!

YOUR TEXT BECUMS SORTA A BARRIER.....WE WANNA READ BUT IT IS TOO SMALL AND TOO

MUCH AT THE SAME TIME!!!

COMMUNICATION OVA-LOAD!!
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I think you meant to say OAKES
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