Hip Hop "Heads" only talk, with no limbs to act

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blacknoise
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Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:34 pm

Heads ??? ... The South African Hip Hop Community ... I hope you realise that I am speaking to all involved in hip hop culture. Thats the DJs, the MCs, the writers/ graff artists, b-boys/girls, lovers, etc ... This is Hip Hop. I speak to all of them because it was the b-boys and writers that kept the MCs alive back in the day when people just wated to see the dancers and MCs/ rappers were the background music that the dancers just danced to. South African hip hop was silent for so long and the dancer kept the scene alive in each town throughout South Africa. We taught the next generation nationawide and yet MCs seldom speak of the whole culture, yet use the word hip hop to only explain them.

Lets check this out. It is ironically the same that happened in the USA. The DJ was the backbone of the scene and played the local stuff to break it to the masses ... mmmm It is ironic that South Africas best Hip Hop DJs spend more of their time playing American Rap instead of local ... even though they are in rap groups themselves??? What the hell is that. They break the latest USA hip hop to the masses and then wonder why we are in the situation that we find ourselves in. The scene is in this situation because we dont even dance to what is from here. DJs dont play local and the radio never play what is from here. At the core of this is the connection between the record labels and the radio stations and how much money is made off tracks that are owned by record labels instead of individuals in other music genres. You see they back ach other because they make money from each other and the artists that they own. Hip hop does not have that much dance as kwaito, let alone sell its soul as often, so what do you expect ... yes we will struggle.

Hip Hop heads seldom use their heads and breakdown the reasons behind the scenes struggle and how what it will really take to get the masses interested ... THINK ... What do the people want, more imprtantly .. what do the people need when it comes to hip hops voice in South Africa. I was at a hip hop new skool dance competition in JHB and I realised the deeper problem. They call their dance Hip Hop like rappers call themselves hip hop when it is not the whole culture or they dont even know what the culture is actually about and insist on using that name to explain what they do. It suddenly hit me that if we had all these kids dancing to local hip hop and realising the real culture as a whole and how they are part of that great powerful culture, we would get so much more out of it as a country. Check this out ... my opservations were how they only danced on USA hip hop dance songs, so the rehearsed on USA hip hop and know all the lyrics and love the videos where they learned the moves from or how they dress what they saw on these videos. Then I saw that if we worked together in mass the culture in South Africa would become South African. If b-boys danced on South African music, they would know South African lyrics and how can that happen when our best DJs are promoting them and not us. Then I saw how these kids parens were paying thousands for shoes and clothing that also came from overseas and how that did not help South Africa and how this was all connected. A kid is an amazing MC, but his folks say get a real job because she buys him USA hip hop and know that you cant live off that here ... We killing wees creativity ... then I see the dance steps all belong to other people from oversea and its the same in b-boying today as well and in MCing as well as graffiti artists and as well as clothing styles and everything else South African hip hop creates ... even if its in Native tongue, its in overseas style of rhyming ... we have lost our creativity WHICH IS WHAT HIP HOP IS ALL ABOUT.

OUR OWN CLOTHING STYLES< OUR OWN DJ STYLES< OUR OWN MC STYLES< OUR OWN B-BOY MOVES< OUR OWN WRITERS STYLE<OUR OWN OUR OWN !!!!!!
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Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:35 am

DAMN!!!! blah blah blah blah blah .... jy praat en praat en praat, doen nou iets en maak klaar

Rappers are like politcians that make empty promises of shit tey never really gonna do. They living in fanasy and then pass that shit on to the masses as if we all wanna hear that crap. No wonder people are listenin to something else. You like the boy that cried wolf ... after a while people are tired of hearing what you saying, because your words are meaningless, they have no meaning yes, yes sis, like Tokyos the apprentice to their richess, while the spear of the nation is is reduced to a shovel and the masses reduced to grovel ... mr bee as greedy as you can bee ... sorry about that !!!! (Back to my point)

Dont rappers think that people are gonna wonder if they do the shit they talk about in their songs. Then again, its South Africa and rappers dont sell that much, so its just not that big an interest in the fact that you are not doing what you speaking about. Or maybe people have become use to believing people in the media and on CD, so they dont have to be telling the truth or even live up to their promises ... mmmmm. Maybe, but then all we gonna have is a whole lot of talk alot MCs that never do what they are rhyming about or even taking action on the words that they speak ... or even taking the next step beyond the dream of success and actually take the steps that are needed to make the dream a reality. WORDS MUST BE ACTED ON, that what ACTION IS, ACT-I-ON ... I have to take action on the words that I speak ... In the beginning was the word and the word was made man, see even GOD took action on the words in his plan .... from a song Im writing for my next solo CD called "These Babblers from babylon, I hear them babbling on and on, the battle it be over even before its begun" " Now you can chant down babylon, when all you have is an empty song, Now you cant cantdown babylon, when your words are not acted on" ...

Well, lets see how much action we can take until next time I write to you ok

Peace

Emile
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Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:43 pm

These babblers from babylon, I hear them babbling on and on/ The battle it be over even before its begun X 2

Now you can't chant down babylon/ If all you have is an empty song/ Now you cant chant down babylon,

when you dont know whats going on

Verse 1

Ohmmmm !!!!!

In the beginning was the word and the word was made man

See even God took actions on the words in his plan

Can you understand when our words were our bond

Now rappers speew words like their mouths are magic wonds

Conned from wordsworth, tell me whats your wordsworth

When your words never ever into action even give birth

Words be like Oh No, now Im meaningless

Before these empty MCs, you see I had meaning yes

The meaninglessness of words has now escalated

Self-hatred paraded on poster poles are under-rated

Sacred was the word when we thought before we spoke

Its a joke when freestyle MCs freely on their words choke

Poke it with a stick, words meanings sticking to the page

At this stage we've forgotten how to use our words to rage

Uncage the words meaning, let your words manifest

Lest saying isn't doing, so on your words do your best

Chorus

Verse 2

Babblers babble 'bout blowing up as an MC

But cant see the industries still run by mental Slavery

Artists are an apostrophe, owned they're their property

Promptly, promoting commodities a priority

See these slaves endorse products aplenty

Where MCs get 10% while industry gets 90

Empty MCs on Empty TV's

Words are empty thanks to the corporate squeeze

Please - I never thought that I'd see the day

Where your flow is more important than acting on what you say

Hey ! big word spitters, who do you actually rhyme for

So hardcore that the masses of listeners you ignore

Im sure MCs an acronym for mental captivity

No sustainability cause everyone gets in for free

Put them on your guest list, you guest yes pockets empty

Empty like the beers they consume after entry

Chorus

Break

Drums come and call on the son

To return the meaning to where word came from

Some spit venom verbally inflicting pain

When all fades away only the word will remain

Ohmmmmmmm !!!!!



Verse 3

These babblers babble on and with forked tongue spit at the sun

They've come to cruxify the revolutionary one

Beware of these ones who speak with forked tongue

On a cross in Calvary, they the word hung

Spun Democracies falacies and free-trade policies

These global capitalist media monopolies

Empty promises from politicians to economists

The conning list, they insist silences pessimist

Make passivists from activists, opportunists capitalists

Capital YES SIS, Tokyos the apprentice to their riches

B.E.E greedy , legitimize privitization

Our nation sold to foreign economic occupation

Gone are our revolutionary youth who fought for freedom

See them in the malls acting like dumb ass Hilton ...

Their battles won if the words meanings gone

On your words be impeccable and true change will come

Masses minds won when medias brainwashing gets done

These sons of capitalism control the sales of the gun
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:55 am

:s hock: :s hock: :s hock: :s hock: :s hock: :s hock: :s hock: :s hock: :s hock:

this is a powerful piece!!! really inspiring!!! thanks so much for the piece!!! its inspired me to write something of my own!!!

truly a african pioneer!!!

peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:34 am

Black noise has officially schooled me (nuff said)
Black Noise
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Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:46 am

I thought I would share the lyrics with you after this discussion helped to form a song that dealt with the issue of talking vs doing in hip hop and just generally in South Africa and politics:-

Babblers from Babylon - Talk is Cheap

Chorus

These babblers from babylon, I hear them babbling on and on/ The battle it be over even before its begun X 2

Now you can't chant down babylon/ If all you have is an empty song/ Now you cant chant down babylon,

when you dont know whats going on

Verse 1

Ohmmmm !!!!!

In the beginning was the word and the word was made man

See even God took actions on the words in his plan

Can you understand when our words were our bond

Now rappers speew words like their mouths are magic wonds

Conned from wordsworth, tell me whats your words worth

When your words never ever into action even give birth

Words be like Oh No, now Im meaningless

Before these empty MCs, you see I had meaning yes

The meaninglessness of words has now escalated

Self-hatred paraded on poster poles are under-rated

Sacred was the word when we thought before we spoke

Its a joke when freestyle MCs freely on their words choke

Poke it with a stick, words meanings sticking to the page

At this stage we've forgotten how to use our words to rage

Uncage the words meaning, let your words manifest

Lest saying isn't doing, so on your words do your best

Chorus

Verse 2

Babblers babble 'bout blowing up as an MC

But cant see the industries still run by mental Slavery

Artists are an apostrophe, owned they're their property

Promptly, promoting commodities a priority

See these slaves endorse products aplenty

Where MCs get 10% while industry gets 90

Empty MCs on Empty TV's

Words are empty thanks to the corporate squeeze

Please - I never thought that I'd see the day

Where your flow is more important than acting on what you say

Hey ! big word spitters, who do you actually rhyme for

So hardcore that the masses of listeners you ignore

Im sure MCs an acronym for mental captivity

No sustainability cause everyone gets in for free

Put them on your guest list, you guest yes pockets empty

Empty like the beers they consume after entry

Chorus

Break

Drums come and call on the son

To return the meaning to where word came from

Some spit venom verbally inflicting pain

When all fades away only the word will remain

Ohmmmmmmm !!!!!



Verse 3

These babblers babble on and with forked tongue spit at the sun

They've come to cruxify the revolutionary one

Beware of these ones who speak with forked tongue

On a cross in Calvary, they the word hung

Spun Democracies falacies and free-trade policies

These global capitalist media monopolies

Empty promises from politicians to economists

The conning list, they insist silences pessimist

Make passivists from activists, opportunists capitalists

Capital YES SIS, Tokyos the apprentice to their riches

B.E.E greedy , legitimize privitization

Our nation sold to foreign economic occupation

Gone are our revolutionary youth who fought for freedom

See them in the malls acting like dumb ass Hilton ...

Their battles won if the words meanings gone

On your words be impeccable and true change will come

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Black Noise
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Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:47 am

I thought I would share the lyrics with you after this discussion helped to form a song that dealt with the issue of talking vs doing in hip hop and just generally in South Africa and politics:-

Babblers from Babylon - Talk is Cheap

Chorus

These babblers from babylon, I hear them babbling on and on/ The battle it be over even before its begun X 2

Now you can't chant down babylon/ If all you have is an empty song/ Now you cant chant down babylon,

when you dont know whats going on

Verse 1

Ohmmmm !!!!!

In the beginning was the word and the word was made man

See even God took actions on the words in his plan

Can you understand when our words were our bond

Now rappers speew words like their mouths are magic wonds

Conned from wordsworth, tell me whats your words worth

When your words never ever into action even give birth

Words be like Oh No, now Im meaningless

Before these empty MCs, you see I had meaning yes

The meaninglessness of words has now escalated

Self-hatred paraded on poster poles are under-rated

Sacred was the word when we thought before we spoke

Its a joke when freestyle MCs freely on their words choke

Poke it with a stick, words meanings sticking to the page

At this stage we've forgotten how to use our words to rage

Uncage the words meaning, let your words manifest

Lest saying isn't doing, so on your words do your best

Chorus

Verse 2

Babblers babble 'bout blowing up as an MC

But cant see the industries still run by mental Slavery

Artists are an apostrophe, owned they're their property

Promptly, promoting commodities a priority

See these slaves endorse products aplenty

Where MCs get 10% while industry gets 90

Empty MCs on Empty TV's

Words are empty thanks to the corporate squeeze

Please - I never thought that I'd see the day

Where your flow is more important than acting on what you say

Hey ! big word spitters, who do you actually rhyme for

So hardcore that the masses of listeners you ignore

Im sure MCs an acronym for mental captivity

No sustainability cause everyone gets in for free

Put them on your guest list, you guest yes pockets empty

Empty like the beers they consume after entry

Chorus

Break

Drums come and call on the son

To return the meaning to where word came from

Some spit venom verbally inflicting pain

When all fades away only the word will remain

Ohmmmmmmm !!!!!



Verse 3

These babblers babble on and with forked tongue spit at the sun

They've come to cruxify the revolutionary one

Beware of these ones who speak with forked tongue

On a cross in Calvary, they the word hung

Spun Democracies falacies and free-trade policies

These global capitalist media monopolies

Empty promises from politicians to economists

The conning list, they insist silences pessimist

Make passivists from activists, opportunists capitalists

Capital YES SIS, Tokyos the apprentice to their riches

B.E.E greedy , legitimize privitization

Our nation sold to foreign economic occupation

Gone are our revolutionary youth who fought for freedom

See them in the malls acting like dumb ass Hilton ...

Their battles won if the words meanings gone

On your words be impeccable and true change will come

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Black Noise
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Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:07 am

I was at my nephews party last night and they all were into hip hop ... American Hip Hop that is and they knew all the words and I heard some of them say that they are into hip hop ... I was tempted to ask if they were into RAP or hip hop, but you see their dont know the difference. Heads are plenty, but activists are few. Heads spitl venom verbally inflicting pain to the minds in other heads, while both are actionless.

I saw the future of Cape Town hip hop last night and it is a sad version of what it could be and hip hops real power. i kept wondering how we could change this when all their parents see is the negative affect that hip hop is having on their children and its backed by the radio stations and the powers that be in South Africa. Rich white and BEE black people deciding what the masses get to hear, while they make money off the same exploitation of the masses minds and the future of this democratic South Africa. You see now the exploitation is via the greed of these people in capitalistic masks selling capitalism as a solution to our once proud socialistic and communistic leaders, who have switched on their agenda and fill their pockets. I dont care what colour you are , if you an abusive greedy person putting nothing back into Africa, then you are the peoples enemy. Many did not die so that you could change South Africa to the exploitive platform for international interests at this the planets 11th hour.

ACTION is needed to change this trend of thought that is happening. We need to act collectively for more than just sharing our punchlines and egos through rhymes that miss the point and are directed in the wrong enemy.

MENTAL WAR!!!!

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Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:22 pm

TRUE TALK!!!!!

I dont know how it is i over looked this thread.

the power and strenght of hiphop will only be felt if and only when channelled and directed towards the right causes.

this is the founding philosophy of me and my crew members;to use our hiphop not only expose the creeping rot in our society but to also disabuse the minds of the teeming disenchanted youth that not only do they do have a stake in comtemporary society but to propel them to state and protect that stake.

...so help us God
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Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:49 am

I thought I would share the lyrics with you after this discussion helped to form a song that dealt with the issue of talking vs doing in hip hop and just generally in South Africa and politics:-

Babblers from Babylon - Talk is Cheap

Chorus

These babblers from babylon, I hear them babbling on and on/ The battle it be over even before its begun X 2

Now you can't chant down babylon/ If all you have is an empty song/ Now you cant chant down babylon,

when you dont know whats going on

Verse 1

Ohmmmm !!!!!

In the beginning was the word and the word was made man

See even God took actions on the words in his plan

Can you understand when our words were our bond

Now rappers speew words like their mouths are magic wonds

Conned from wordsworth, tell me whats your words worth

When your words never ever into action even give birth

Words be like Oh No, now Im meaningless

Before these empty MCs, you see I had meaning yes

The meaninglessness of words has now escalated

Self-hatred paraded on poster poles are under-rated

Sacred was the word when we thought before we spoke

Its a joke when freestyle MCs freely on their words choke

Poke it with a stick, words meanings sticking to the page

At this stage we've forgotten how to use our words to rage

Uncage the words meaning, let your words manifest

Lest saying isn't doing, so on your words do your best

Chorus

Verse 2

Babblers babble 'bout blowing up as an MC

But cant see the industries still run by mental Slavery

Artists are an apostrophe, owned they're their property

Promptly, promoting commodities a priority

See these slaves endorse products aplenty

Where MCs get 10% while industry gets 90

Empty MCs on Empty TV's

Words are empty thanks to the corporate squeeze

Please - I never thought that I'd see the day

Where your flow is more important than acting on what you say

Hey ! big word spitters, who do you actually rhyme for

So hardcore that the masses of listeners you ignore

Im sure MCs an acronym for mental captivity

No sustainability cause everyone gets in for free

Put them on your guest list, you guest yes pockets empty

Empty like the beers they consume after entry

Chorus

Break

Drums come and call on the son

To return the meaning to where word came from

Some spit venom verbally inflicting pain

When all fades away only the word will remain

Ohmmmmmmm !!!!!



Verse 3

These babblers babble on and with forked tongue spit at the sun

They've come to cruxify the revolutionary one

Beware of these ones who speak with forked tongue

On a cross in Calvary, they the word hung

Spun Democracies falacies and free-trade policies

These global capitalist media monopolies

Empty promises from politicians to economists

The conning list, they insist silences pessimist

Make passivists from activists, opportunists capitalists

Capital YES SIS, Tokyos the apprentice to their riches

B.E.E greedy , legitimize privitization

Our nation sold to foreign economic occupation

Gone are our revolutionary youth who fought for freedom

See them in the malls acting like dumb ass Hilton ...

Their battles won if the words meanings gone

On your words be impeccable and true change will come

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